Host James Lipton interviewed Sasha Kasdan for his show, Inside the Actors Studio, on Monday, July 30, 2012.
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JAMES LIPTON: As is always my fashion, I try my best to bring the newest of Hollywood's stars on Inside the Actors Studio. Today, my guest is a multi-talented gentleman...Sasha Kasdan. What I mean by "multi-talented" is that, besides being an actor for almost three decades, Sasha is also a very much sought after model, singer, dancer and musician. Sasha, welcome to The Actors Studio.
SASHA KASDAN: Thank you, Mr. Lipton. It's a pleasure to be here.
JL: Now, I've read your unauthorized biography through the trade papers which states that you were born in New York City on the evening of May 8, 1971.
SK: Brooklyn, actually.
JL: Well, tell us something about your past, if that's not asking too much.
SK: Not at all. I was not born the normal way, as a matter of fact. I was born in the back seat of a taxi that was pulled over for speeding.
JL: That's normal for New York! (Audience laughs)
SK: Anyway, when the police officer heard my mother screaming in the back seat, he told the driver of the taxi to get some hot water. They both washed their hands and helped with our delivery.
JL: Our delivery?
SK: I discovered several years ago that I was the first born of identical twins. At that time, though, my mother was a single, unemployed woman who was living on welfare. She couldn't bring up two children, much less one. So when she found that there was a nurse in the maternity ward of the Brooklyn Womens' Hospital who was not able to have a child, she struck a bargain with her that she would take my twin brother and raise him as her own.
JL: Have you ever met your twin brother?
SK: Yes, I did...back in 2009. His name is Peter and he lives and operates an architectural firm in Tarrytown, New York.
JL: Now, correct me if I'm wrong about your education. You first attended a public school in New York?
SK: Yes...at the Greater New York Academy in Queens.
JL: Where did you attend school from there?
SK: After my father got custody of me in a very bitter court case, I went down to Florida and finished my grammar school education at the American Preparatory Academy in Davie. After graduation, I returned to New York to attend the American Academy of Dramatic Arts in Manhattan to hone my talents as an actor, singer and dancer. While waiting to try out for plays, I worked as a print model. After graduating the Academy of Dramatic Arts, I returned to Florida to attend the University of Central Florida in Orlando, working at Universal Studios while waiting to find work in the theater.
JL: You worked as a "print" model? What do you mean by that?
SK: Until I turned 18, I stood under six feet tall. If you have the look but not the height, you work as a print model. Once you get over six feet tall, you can work on the runways.
JL: How tall are you now?
SK: Six foot one, in my bare feet. And, in case you were going to ask...I weigh one hundred and eighty pounds. That weight has been constant ever since I was 20.
JL: Now, by the time you went back to New York to attend the Academy of Dramatic Arts, you were already appearing onstage. Isn't that right?
SK: Yes.
JL: What were some of the plays which you appeared in?
SK: I got my start at 12 at a place in Hollywood, Florida, called the Hollywood Playhouse. I appeared in two plays there...in the title role of "Peter Pan" and as Chulalongkorn in "The King and I". Then, I appeared in my one and only opera at the Fort Lauderdale Armory..."Amahl and the Night Visitors". From there, I did my last South Florida appearance at the Kravitz Center as Billy Ray in Ernest Thompson's "On Golden Pond".
JL: I want to break away from your acting...and talk for a while about your modeling. Your father brought you to a modeling company when you were 12...but they didn't want you. Why?
SK: Well, not only was I short...only four foot eleven...I also weighed just a little over one hundred pounds. The head of the agency had her photographer take me down to his studio to take some forty to sixty photographs of me in various clothing...including swim trunks. When the head of the agency saw the photographs, she said to my father that there was no doubt that I made love to the camera and the camera loved me...but I was too skinny for them. They gave my father about six months to "beef" me up...and then they would see. Well, my father got me a trainer who put me on a rigorous diet and exercise program and by the time I returned to the agency, I had not only gained forty pounds of muscle but grew from four foot eleven to five foot five. That satisfied her. She started sending out circulars to fashion magazines of the new face and body...and just who I was represented by.
JL: That was some growth spurt...six inches in six months! (Audience laughs) Now, fame as a model wasn't immediate, was it?
SK: No. When I started attending the Academy of Dramatic Arts, I lived in a dormitory...an apartment building owned by the school a couple of blocks away. When I arrived home one day, I received a call from the agency's New York office telling me that if I could get to there in one hour, I had a job. I got showered, changed, hopped on the subway...and made the trip with fifteen minutes to spare. The photographer gave me an outfit to change into...a long-sleeved cotton shirt, knee-length shorts, a pair of sandals and a Panama hat. I didn't like the way I looked when I saw myself in the mirror...so I rolled the sleeves up to just below my elbows and the legs of the shorts up to just near the center of my thighs. Then, I took a kerchief and tied it around my neck, opening my shirt down to the middle of my chest. The photographer didn't like it and told me to put the sleeves and legs back to where they were and button my shirt.
JL: Now, something life-changing happened after that. What was it?
SK: The designer of the clothing slapped the photographer across the back of his head and told him that I was making a statement with his clothing and told me to put the sleeves and legs back to the way I had them and open the shirt to the middle of my chest again.
JL: Who was the designer of the clothes?
SK: Gianni Versace.
JL: Go on. What else happened?
SK: I was positioned in front of a teenage girl...a pretty thing about 18...who was in an advanced state of pregnancy. She placed her hands on my shoulders as I raised my right leg and put my hands on my knee...and the photographer snapped the picture.
JL: Now, I'm sure that the young lady probably became famous if she appeared in a Gianni Versace ad. Who was she?
SK: I was told her name was Vicki Lynn Hogan. And, you're right...she did become famous. As Anna Nicole Smith!
JL: Returning to your acting. While you attended the Academy, you appeared solely on their stage.
SK: Yes.
JL: When did you finally branch out to professional stage productions?
SK: It was when I returned to Florida. I appeared in both college productions and professional productions at the Orlando Regional Theater...and kept very busy from 1989 to 1993, sometimes appearing in the same plays at both places.
JL: When did your fortune start to change?
SK: It was when my then-girlfriend and I went to Universal Studios on my day off. Tori Spelling and her parents and boyfriend were there. Tori pointed me out to her mother...her father Aaron told me of a new show that he was looking for new talent for and gave me his card, telling me to call him if and when I should go to Los Angeles, which I did in 1995. But, when I arrived there and phoned his office...I discovered that the show he wanted me for was newly-canceled. So, there I was...six foot one, one hundred eighty pounds with no job and no place to live. I got cheap lodging at the local YMCA and made the rounds of the modeling agencies and studios by day. Then, I met the actor Brian Patrick Clark. He signed the back of one of his agent's cards and told me to go to her office and show the secretary the card. And, as the bards say..."the rest is history".
JL: Now, your first agent out there in L.A. was Nina Blanchard, wasn't it?
SK: That's right. She owned two mansions in Malibu where she housed her new prospects...one for the guys and another for the gals. She had given me about thirty copies of my photographs. They were composites with a full-face in the center and body shots wearing various clothing, including shorts and swim trunks, all around it. It was up to me to put my job experience on the back. She told me just not to make it too wordy or I would never get work. I kept to her credo...and started working nearly non-stop since then.
JL: Ms. Blanchard passed on recently...
SK: In 2010.
JL: Were you still under her guidance at the time of her death?
SK: No. I went freelance just prior to my marriage in 1999. With her fond wishes, of course. She told me after I appeared as an extra in "Starship Troopers" that the minute I start to receive a thousand fan letters a month, I'd be ready to go out on my own. But, up until the day she passed, we kept in very close contact. She truly was the "starmaker". I really miss her.
JL: Your wife. You met her at a dance when you were both teenagers, am I right?
SK: Yes.
JL: Tell us about that.
SK: Well, Jen attended a young ladies' school. They asked the heads of the Academy to form a get-together dance because my school had more boys than girls...almost twice as many. So, when I saw this sad little girl sitting in a chair all by herself, looking down at the floor, I decided I was going to walk right up to her and ask her to dance with me. We started dating from then on...getting into trouble to missing curfew. Then, we both went to the University of Central Florida. She started operating a martial arts dojo while I handled not only school but one full time job and one part time one as well.
JL: You said before that you were working at Universal Studios in Orlando. What was your other job?
SK: When time and finances permitted, I took trips around the world and snapped photographs for a weekend travelogue in the Orlando Sentinel.
JL: When did you sleep?
SK: Whenever I finished my homework...at the end of the day.
JL: It's a miracle you haven't burned out yet!
SK: Give me time! (Audience laughs)
JL: Now that you're hard at work on "The Six Million Dollar Man", when do you have time to appear onstage?
SK: I have two plays on the back burner for next year..."The Wasps" by Aristophanes and "God's Favorite" by Neil Simon.
JL: When exactly do you expect to be finished with "The Six Million Dollar Man"?
SK: Well, I'll be taking my family to Australia during the kids' winter break from school, then I'll be back at work finishing the movie. I'd say filming will wrap up by early March.
JL: Then it'll be out in the theaters by summer?
SK: Not exactly. The way Hollywood is behaving with making remake after remake after remake, I decided to follow the example of a good friend of mine...and release the movie directly to video. It pays just as well.
JL: It sounds to me like you don't like Hollywood that much. Is that true?
SK: Well, look at it this way. There are a lot of people out there with great ideas for movies. But, instead of exploiting that choice, the studios insist on remaking old movies. Look at "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" for instance. Do you have any idea just how many times Hollywood remade it?
JL: A couple of times, I would think.
SK: Nine times! The original came out in 1956. Then the first remake hit the theaters in 1979. After that, the same movie was remade in 1986, 1990, 1993, 1999, 2003, 2006 and the last one in 2009. They may change the title...but the idea is still there. Then, last year they remade "Conan the Barbarian" for no reason. They also remade and changed mythology with "Clash of the Titans" in 2010. Now, they remake "Red Dawn" and have us being invaded by North Korea. "Titans" and "Conan" were both panned by critics and public alike; people laughed at Nicole Kidman when she did "Invasion"...and now, they'll do the same with "Red Dawn". This kind of behavior will make me pleased to release my movies direct to video. At least, I'll have the say-so of what I film.
JL: You neglected to mention two Hitchcock films..."Psycho" and "The Birds".
SK: That's right! "Psycho" was perfect as it was. Why would anyone wish to improve on perfection? Anyway, "Psycho" was nothing more than a scene-for-scene copy...plagiarism in its purest form. "The Birds" are following the Daphne DuMaurier story rather than copying Evan Hunter's 1963 script. Also, let's not forget Stephen King's "Carrie". The original came out in 1978. Then, Hollywood remade it in 2006 and included a sequel the next year...and is now readying to release a new remake next spring. It's disgusting! We have so many people out there just dying to write an original script for the screen. But, Hollywood is just not giving them a chance! (Audience applauds) I have a cousin who writes as a hobby...and he's written several original scripts and had them copyrighted. Only Hollywood just won't pick up on the option to use them. They tell him that he needs to get an agent and have the agent speak in his behalf. What good is an agent when the Writers Guild tells people flat out that agents are not looking for new clients or won't take any unsolicited or uncovered scripts or clients? All these people need is a chance to get their foot in the door and the survival of Hollywood would be secure. Mark my words...India is going to bypass Hollywood by 2020 if they don't wise up and stopping playing the fool! (Audience applauds)
JL: Now, you did something in one of your films that sort of repeated history from your past.
SK: Yes...I accidentally hanged myself when I was 12. I was using a movie harness which my father purchased without either his permission or the knowledge of how the device worked. Luckily, my father saved me before I actually got my..."lights" turned off for good.
JL: Trust me when I say that we're all happy that you survived. (Audience applauds) Now, I believe the name of the film in which this occurred was a wuxia direct to video movie called "Journeyman".
SK: Yes...the Chinese-made trilogy.
JL: Fill us all in on it.
SK: "Journeyman" started out as a story in which my character, by the name of Soong Zhao Li, was made a freeman by the emperor and given a parcel of land to clear and cultivate as his own with a home for his mother, wife and sisters. Then, the old emperor dies mysteriously...and his evil son succeeds him and takes back the lands and re-enslaves the freemen and their families. My character rebels and vows vengeance, riding off as his family are shackled. The emperor's archers fire their arrows after me...and one hits its mark, piercing my right shoulder. I finally arrive at the home of a widow who has a knowledge of holistic medicine and heals me. Her son teaches me how to shoot a bow and aim the arrows with deadly accuracy from a great distance. In the second film, Zhao Li becomes an outlaw, killing as many of the emperor's soldiers and hired killers as he can...before he is finally caught, tried and hanged. That film closed with the screen graying out and the cast and credits rolling up the screen as my body swung back and forth on the film.
JL: So, you died at the end of the second film?
SK: I said it was a trilogy, didn't I? (Audience laughs) The widow's son finds me hanging from the tree, cuts me down and revives me. Now, Zhao Li, with a hanging scar around his neck, is more determined to kill the emperor and free his women as well as all the freemen who were enslaved. I finally do this at the end of the third film, leaving the throne open for the old emperor's nephew, a man just as kindhearted as the uncle.
JL: Now, you have some more movies planned in the near future?
SK: Yes...a remake of the Richard Walton Tully play "Bird of Paradise", in which I will be playing an island prince who returns home with an American friend, who falls in love with my younger sister and marries her...only to lose her to an angry volcano. There is some talk that I may also be doing remakes of "The Rains Came" and "The Trouble With Angels", where I would be playing the Rosalind Russell part of a head priest of a Catholic boys' school where I have to tolerate two troublemakers throughout their four-year stay...as well as put up with the clankering of an old boiler that hisses when I kick it. (Audience laughs)
JL: I thought you said you cannot stand remakes.
SK: I said remakes that come out in short terms after the original. "The Rains Came" came out with Tyrone Power in 1937 and was remade as "The Rains of Ranchipur" in 1955. That was 56 years ago. "The Trouble With Angels" was in 1966...46 years ago. There is still room in the moviegoer for romance, tragedy and comedy.
JL: I agree, Sasha. The public needs them to hold onto their sanity with the world as it is today. (Audience applauds) Now, let's discuss your family life. Your wife and youngest son have small parts in "The Six Million Dollar Man", isn't that so?
SK: Yes. They play a young mother whose toddler is thrown off the subway platform in front of an approaching train by my enemy, narrowly missing the third rail. I jump onto the tracks, retrieve the child and throw it to a policeman and brace myself against the wall as the train arrives at the station. When I squeeze by the train and jump onto the platform, the mother shrieks and the child calls me The Terminator.
JL: Are they the only ones who want to get a taste of what you do?
SK: No. My oldest daughter, Anya, wants to follow in my footsteps and be a model. She's only 11...but she stands five-foot-six. She's going to be about six, six-one by the time she gets to 18...the right height for a model.
JL: Well, she has the best kind of role model. (Audience applauds) Do you plan to do any more modeling campaigns as well as movies and plays?
SK: What's to stop me?
JL: As I said before...there is burn-out. Didn't you experience that one time about four years ago?
SK: Yes...in Ireland. I was rehearsing for a show called "A Celtic Night", studying blocking and rehearsing songs and dances from 6 a.m. to as late as 2 a.m. I collapsed on the stage one day...and ended up in the Dublin University Clinic with an I.V. in my arm and the doctor phoning my wife, telling her that I was working myself to death. His remedy...since my acts were already perfect, I was to stay away from the Helix Center until the day of the performance and to get plenty of sleep.
JL: You have an adverse fear of hospitals. Why is that?
SK: I almost died when I was ten. I was hit across my head with a studio chair, which fractured my skull and destroyed my lower right rear jaw. The doctors worked on me for nine hours and I spent the next six months in a medically-induced coma while I healed.
JL: How exactly did that happen?
SK: It's ancient history, as far as I'm concerned...and I don't wish to discuss it.
JL: Very well. I'm not one to re-open old wounds. Now, after you finish "The Six Million Dollar Man" and the two comedies next year, what are your plans?
SK: To keep on bringing pleasure to the public both on screen and stage.
JL: Well, Sasha...I wish you a lot of success.
SK: Thank you. (Audience applauds as the lights dim and the microphones are turned off)